Episode 159, The Rowan Williams Interview

Welcome to a special Episode 159 – a conversation with 104th Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams.

This episode brings together Jack and Rowan Williams, the 104th Archbishop of Canterbury and one of the world's most distinguished theologians.

As they explore the intersection of faith, politics, and ethics, they confront Christian nationalism, the morality of war, the value of animal life, and the nature of God. A sweeping philosophical and theological exchange!

We hope you enjoy the show.

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Episode 158, Live Debate: Alex O'Connor x William Lane Craig

Welcome to a very special Episode 158 – a live debate between Alex O’Connor and William Lane Craig.

This episode brings together two leading voices in philosophy of religion: William Lane Craig, one of the world’s foremost Christian apologists, and Alex O’Connor, one of today’s most prominent atheist thinkers.

As they confront the arguments for and against belief in God, they seek to break the long-standing impasse between God and atheism.

The first half of the show is free-flowing debate; the second half is audience Q&A. Hosted by Jonny Thomson and Jack Symes – we hope you enjoy the show!

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Episode 157, 'Jesus' Physical Appearance' with John Nelson

Welcome to Episode 157, where Jack discusses Jesus’ body with John Nelson.

“Hey, it’s Jack here – I’m still out in the van writing up my travel book. The wind and rain coming down hard in France, as you might hear in the background.

We’re recording an old-school show and another interview at the end of the month, which we’re really excited to produce and share. In the meantime, I’m happy to release a one-to-one conversation with me and John Nelson – author of Jesus’ Physical Appearance and host at Premier Unbelievable.

We explore why the biblical writers include no description of Jesus’ body, what that absence might mean, and how Jesus’ appearance has been imagined, altered, and politicised across history. Along the way, we discuss Jesus’ clothing, Stoic and Cynic influences, animals and incarnation, modern Christian culture, the politics of Jesus’ image, and a few of the more intriguing Christian conspiracy theories. I hope you enjoy the show!”

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Episode 152, ‘God, Consciousness, and Fundamental Reality’ with Philip Goff, David Godman, and Miri Albahari (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)

Welcome to Episode 152 (Part II of II), where Goff, Godman, and Albahari discuss the methods and impact of Christian and Hindu philosophy.

The supreme being of classical theism is unlimited in power, knowledge, and goodness – a being distinct from the world, who creates it out of nothing and governs it from beyond. On this picture, we are not identical with God. God’s consciousness is not our consciousness – and our identity is not theirs.

That picture has long been challenged by schools of Hindu philosophy and, more recently, by Western philosophies of religion that reject traditional conceptions of God. In response to the problem of evil, some philosophers now argue that if there is a creator, then that creator must be limited in power. Advaita’s challenge is more radical. It doesn’t just revise the traditional conception of God – it dissolves it. Where classical theism draws a sharp distinction between God and the world, Advaita says that reality is non-dual. The divine is not something separate from us or from the universe, but the underlying reality that appears as both.

To explore these competing visions of the supreme being, reality, and our place within it, I’m joined by three guests. Returning to The Panpsycast for the fifth time is Philip Goff, Professor of Philosophy at Durham University. As listeners will remember, Philip is the author of several brilliant books – including Galileo’s Error and, more recently, Why? The Purpose of the Universe. David Godman is a leading author, best known for his work on the Hindu sage, Sri Ramana Maharshi. And last but not least, Miri Albahari is Senior Lecturer at The University of Western Australia – where her work explores the metaphysics and epistemology of Buddhism and Advaita Vedanta.

What is gained – and what is lost – when God is no longer unlimited, or is no longer separate from the world? Can these alternatives still ground mind, meaning, and morality? And by what means could we come to know such a reality – and decide between these rival conceptions of God?

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This episode is generously supported by The John Templeton Foundation, through The Panpsychism and Pan(en)theism Project (62683).


Episode 152, ‘God, Consciousness, and Fundamental Reality’ with Philip Goff, David Godman, and Miri Albahari (Part I - The Debate)

Welcome to Episode 152 (Part I of II), where Goff, Godman, and Albahari debate the nature of God and fundamental reality.

The supreme being of classical theism is unlimited in power, knowledge, and goodness – a being distinct from the world, who creates it out of nothing and governs it from beyond. On this picture, we are not identical with God. God’s consciousness is not our consciousness – and our identity is not theirs.

That picture has long been challenged by schools of Hindu philosophy and, more recently, by Western philosophies of religion that reject traditional conceptions of God. In response to the problem of evil, some philosophers now argue that if there is a creator, then that creator must be limited in power. Advaita’s challenge is more radical. It doesn’t just revise the traditional conception of God – it dissolves it. Where classical theism draws a sharp distinction between God and the world, Advaita says that reality is non-dual. The divine is not something separate from us or from the universe, but the underlying reality that appears as both.

To explore these competing visions of the supreme being, reality, and our place within it, I’m joined by three guests. Returning to The Panpsycast for the fifth time is Philip Goff, Professor of Philosophy at Durham University. As listeners will remember, Philip is the author of several brilliant books – including Galileo’s Error and, more recently, Why? The Purpose of the Universe. David Godman is a leading author, best known for his work on the Hindu sage, Sri Ramana Maharshi. And last but not least, Miri Albahari is Senior Lecturer at The University of Western Australia – where her work explores the metaphysics and epistemology of Buddhism and Advaita Vedanta.

What is gained – and what is lost – when God is no longer unlimited, or is no longer separate from the world? Can these alternatives still ground mind, meaning, and morality? And by what means could we come to know such a reality – and decide between these rival conceptions of God?

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This episode is generously supported by The John Templeton Foundation, through The Panpsychism and Pan(en)theism Project (62683).


Episode 151, ‘Afro-Brazilian Religions’ with José Eduardo Porcher (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)

Welcome to Episode 151 (Part II of II), where we’ll be continuing our disucssion on the philosophy of Candomblé.

In the beginning, there was nothing but air. The supreme being breathed upon it, and the air became water. Air and water moved together, forming mud. Seeing its shape, the supreme being breathed again – and life began.

Today, we’ll be exploring this creation story – born of Afro-Brazilian philosophy – forged under conditions of extreme violence, displacement, and resistance. During the transatlantic slave trade, more than four million Africans were forcibly taken to Brazil – far more than were sent to the United States. They brought with them their gods, their rituals, and their philosophies. Despite sustained efforts to suppress them, these traditions not only survived, but developed into sophisticated systems of thought that remain living practices today.

We’ll be exploring these traditions with José Eduardo Porcher Assistant Professor of Philosophy at the Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul in Brazil. José is currently Director of the Spiritual Realities, Relationality, and Flourishing: Brazilian Contributions to Philosophy of Religion project, and has been centrally involved in a number of major research initiatives examining alternative approaches to philosophy of religion – including the John Templeton funded project Expanding the Philosophy of Religion by Engaging with Afro-Brazilian Traditions.

In this episode, we’ll explore the Afro-Brazilian religious tradition of Candomblé: its account of creation, its distinctive conception of God and the deities, and its striking vision of a world enchanted by a vital life-force that flows through people, objects, nature, and the divine. We’ll ask what it means to live in a world where gods possess human bodies, where objects can be sacred, and where divinity is powerful yet limited. And we’ll consider what these traditions might teach us about evil, responsibility, nature, and how to live well in a world that is far stranger than Western philosophy ever thought.

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This episode is produced in partnership with The Global Philosophy of Religion Project at University of Birmingham, funded by the John Templeton Foundation.


Episode 151, ‘Afro-Brazilian Religions’ with José Eduardo Porcher (Part I - Candomblé)

Welcome to Episode 151 (Part I of II), where we’ll be discussing the philosophy of Candomblé.

In the beginning, there was nothing but air. The supreme being breathed upon it, and the air became water. Air and water moved together, forming mud. Seeing its shape, the supreme being breathed again – and life began.

Today, we’ll be exploring this creation story – born of Afro-Brazilian philosophy – forged under conditions of extreme violence, displacement, and resistance. During the transatlantic slave trade, more than four million Africans were forcibly taken to Brazil – far more than were sent to the United States. They brought with them their gods, their rituals, and their philosophies. Despite sustained efforts to suppress them, these traditions not only survived, but developed into sophisticated systems of thought that remain living practices today.

We’ll be exploring these traditions with José Eduardo Porcher Assistant Professor of Philosophy at the Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul in Brazil. José is currently Director of the Spiritual Realities, Relationality, and Flourishing: Brazilian Contributions to Philosophy of Religion project, and has been centrally involved in a number of major research initiatives examining alternative approaches to philosophy of religion – including the John Templeton funded project Expanding the Philosophy of Religion by Engaging with Afro-Brazilian Traditions.

In this episode, we’ll explore the Afro-Brazilian religious tradition of Candomblé: its account of creation, its distinctive conception of God and the deities, and its striking vision of a world enchanted by a vital life-force that flows through people, objects, nature, and the divine. We’ll ask what it means to live in a world where gods possess human bodies, where objects can be sacred, and where divinity is powerful yet limited. And we’ll consider what these traditions might teach us about evil, responsibility, nature, and how to live well in a world that is far stranger than Western philosophy ever thought.

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This episode is produced in partnership with The Global Philosophy of Religion Project at University of Birmingham, funded by the John Templeton Foundation.


Episode 150, The World's Worst Philosopher (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)

Welcome to Episode 150 (Part II of II), where we’ll be concluding our search for the world’s worst philosopher.

Slavoj Žižek, Friedrich Nietzsche, Kehinde Andrews – the world has never been short of bad philosophers. But of all the minds who have graced, tortured, or otherwise afflicted human history, which one truly deserves the title: The World’s Worst Philosopher?

That’s not an easy question; after all, philosophy has given us so many options. When Dan Dennett denied consciousness, was that the silliest claim ever made? What should we think when once sensible people – Philip Goff – convert to Christianity? Is Robert Wright, in fact, Robert Wrong? Is it the wartime quartet, or the woke-time bore-tet? Did Bentham really support bestiality? And why did David Papineau say that thing about women?

Philosophers are supposed to be seekers of truth: lofty creatures aiming at wisdom, clarity, and the betterment of humanity. But philosophers are just people, shaped by forces that lead them astray. Sometimes they miss truth entirely; sometimes they stumble into it through terrible reasoning; and sometimes they make the world a genuinely worse place.

Which brings us to the task at hand: trying to rank the worst philosopher in history. It’s no easy feat. In fact, it’s going to require the combined efforts of three of philosophy’s greatest minds: Jack Symes, Andrew Horton, and (me) Olly Marley.

This episode may also mark the end of our professional careers. But if we’re going down, we’ll go down like Socrates: making an unnecessarily big deal out of something that, absolutely, could have been easily avoided.

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Episode 149, ‘The Philosophy of Jainism’ with Marie-Hélène Gorisse (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)

Welcome to Episode 149 (Part II of II), where we’ll be continuing our exploration of Jain philosophy.

Jainism, along with Buddhism and Hinduism, is one of India’s great dharmic traditions – though far less well known than its siblings. Emerging around the second century BCE, it is best-known for valuing ahimsa in pursuit of liberation – a devout practice of non-violence. Yet there is far more to Jain philosophy than liberation and ahimsa. Jainism offers a rich way of understanding the self, the cosmos, and the divine. It’s a philosophy with a vision of reality that continues to challenge Western preconceptions on, well, just about everything: from the nature of souls and knowledge to the meaning of life and the origin of the universe.

Today, we’ll be exploring Jainism with Dr Marie-Hélène Gorisse. Dr Gorisse is currently Dharmanath Assistant Professor in Jain Studies at the University of Birmingham, where she’s co-project lead of the Global Philosophy of Religion Project 2. Marie-Hélène’s work explores South Asian philosophy of religion and, most specifically, she is a world-leading expert on Jaina philosophy.

In this episode, we'll trace how Jainism arose, how its sages taught that the self can escape the cycle of rebirth, and the purpose of the universe. And perhaps more importantly, we’ll explore how Jainism can help us all live better lives for the sake of ourselves, and the world around us.

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This episode is produced in partnership with The Global Philosophy of Religion Project at University of Birmingham, funded by the John Templeton Foundation.


Episode 149, ‘The Philosophy of Jainism’ with Marie-Hélène Gorisse (Part I - Liberation)

Welcome to Episode 149 (Part I of II), where we’ll be speaking to Dr Marie-Hélène Gorisse about the philosophy of Jainism.

Jainism, along with Buddhism and Hinduism, is one of India’s great dharmic traditions – though far less well known than its siblings. Emerging around the second century BCE, it is best-known for valuing ahimsa in pursuit of liberation – a devout practice of non-violence. Yet there is far more to Jain philosophy than liberation and ahimsa. Jainism offers a rich way of understanding the self, the cosmos, and the divine. It’s a philosophy with a vision of reality that continues to challenge Western preconceptions on, well, just about everything: from the nature of souls and knowledge to the meaning of life and the origin of the universe.

Today, we’ll be exploring Jainism with Dr Marie-Hélène Gorisse. Dr Gorisse is currently Dharmanath Assistant Professor in Jain Studies at the University of Birmingham, where she’s co-project lead of the Global Philosophy of Religion Project 2. Marie-Hélène’s work explores South Asian philosophy of religion and, most specifically, she is a world-leading expert on Jaina philosophy.

In this episode, we'll trace how Jainism arose, how its sages taught that the self can escape the cycle of rebirth, and the purpose of the universe. And perhaps more importantly, we’ll explore how Jainism can help us all live better lives for the sake of ourselves, and the world around us.

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This episode is produced in partnership with The Global Philosophy of Religion Project at University of Birmingham, funded by the John Templeton Foundation.


Episode 148, ‘Divine Commands’ with Paul Taylor (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)

Welcome to Episode 148 (Part II of II), where we’ll be continuing our discussion of theism and morality with Paul Taylor.

Most people believe in moral facts – that is, there’s something about torturing and murdering innocent people that makes it wrong, which goes beyond just a feeling. Yet it’s hard to locate morality anywhere in the natural world. For this reason, many have understood God to be the source and arbiter of moral truth. But can morality depend on divine decree – or would that make goodness a matter of celestial whim?

In this episode, we’ll be discussing the nature of moral obligation with Paul Taylor, doctoral candidate in philosophy at the University of Liverpool. There, as a university teacher, he specialises in ethics, political philosophy, and – our topic for today – philosophy of religion. As the recipient of the Robbins Rotblat Scholarship, Paul’s research examines one of the oldest and most perplexing questions in moral philosophy – first posed by Plato over two thousand years ago: does God decide what is moral, or merely report moral facts?

In search of the best answer, we’ve been diving into Paul’s unpublished work – pieces that ask not just the big meta-ethical questions, but the practical ones: what are we obliged to do, and why are we obliged to do it. As we’ll discover, Taylor’s work – and contemporary discussion on the Euthyphro dilemma – pushes us to think again about where morality comes from and whether we, and even God, must answer to it.

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Episode 148, ‘Divine Commands’ with Paul Taylor (Part I - The Euthyphro Dilemma)

Welcome to Episode 148 (Part I of II), where we’ll be exploring contemporary discussions of the Euthyphro dilemma with Paul Taylor – doctoral candidate in philosophy at the University of Liverpool.

Most people believe in moral facts – that is, there’s something about torturing and murdering innocent people that makes it wrong, which goes beyond just a feeling. Yet it’s hard to locate morality anywhere in the natural world. For this reason, many have understood God to be the source and arbiter of moral truth. But can morality depend on divine decree – or would that make goodness a matter of celestial whim?

In this episode, we’ll be discussing the nature of moral obligation with Paul Taylor, doctoral candidate in philosophy at the University of Liverpool. There, as a university teacher, he specialises in ethics, political philosophy, and – our topic for today – philosophy of religion. As the recipient of the Robbins Rotblat Scholarship, Paul’s research examines one of the oldest and most perplexing questions in moral philosophy – first posed by Plato over two thousand years ago: does God decide what is moral, or merely report moral facts?

In search of the best answer, we’ve been diving into Paul’s unpublished work – pieces that ask not just the big meta-ethical questions, but the practical ones: what are we obliged to do, and why are we obliged to do it. As we’ll discover, Taylor’s work – and contemporary discussion on the Euthyphro dilemma – pushes us to think again about where morality comes from and whether we, and even God, must answer to it.

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Episode 147, ‘Creator or Cosmos’ with Tim Mawson and Asha Lancaster-Thomas (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)

Welcome to Episode 147 (Part II of II), where Tim and Asha continue their debate on the nature of God.

Across the world, belief in God continues to be widespread and, among philosophers, has long been considered one solution to the problems of the world’s origin, fine-tuned nature, and purpose. However, in the West, very few people have considered alternative concepts of God credible. That, though, may be beginning to change. One such alternative – pantheism – tells us that the universe and God are one and the same thing. It challenges conventional ideas about divine agency and the coherence of traditional theism, and invites us to reconsider what we mean when we speak of ‘God’.

To explore God’s nature, in this special episode, I’ll be joined by two guests: Tim Mawson and Asha Lancaster-Thomas. Dr Mawson is Edgar Jones Fellow and Tutor in Philosophy at St Peter’s College, University of Oxford. He has published five books and over fifty papers in the philosophy of religion. Dr Lancaster-Thomas is Teacher of Philosophy at Atlanta Classical Academy, USA, and has published widely on the philosophy of religion – most recently exploring alternative concepts of God, including the one we’ll be debating today.

Tim Mawson will be arguing in favour of traditional theism – the view that God and the world are not identical. Asha Lancaster-Thomas will be defending pantheism – the view that they are. What are the implications of identifying God with the universe? Can such a view still provide the kind of moral and metaphysical grounding traditionally associated with belief in a transcendent creator? Or – by dragging God down from the heaven’s – do we diminish the divine and its explanatory power?

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This episode is generously supported by The John Templeton Foundation, through The Panpsychism and Pan(en)theism Project (62683).


Links

Asha Lancaster-Thomas (PhilPapers, website)

Tim Mawson (Oxford University, website)

The Panpsychism and Pan(en)theism Project (website)

Episode 147, ‘Creator or Cosmos’ with Tim Mawson and Asha Lancaster-Thomas (Part I - The Debate)

Welcome to Episode 147 (Part I of II), where Jack hosts a debate between Tim Mawson (defending traditional theism) and Asha Lancaster-Thomas (defending pantheism).

Across the world, belief in God continues to be widespread and, among philosophers, has long been considered one solution to the problems of the world’s origin, fine-tuned nature, and purpose. However, in the West, very few people have considered alternative concepts of God credible. That, though, may be beginning to change. One such alternative – pantheism – tells us that the universe and God are one and the same thing. It challenges conventional ideas about divine agency and the coherence of traditional theism, and invites us to reconsider what we mean when we speak of ‘God’.

To explore God’s nature, in this special episode, I’ll be joined by two guests: Tim Mawson and Asha Lancaster-Thomas. Dr Mawson is Edgar Jones Fellow and Tutor in Philosophy at St Peter’s College, University of Oxford. He has published five books and over fifty papers in the philosophy of religion. Dr Lancaster-Thomas is Teacher of Philosophy at Atlanta Classical Academy, USA, and has published widely on the philosophy of religion – most recently exploring alternative concepts of God, including the one we’ll be debating today.

Tim Mawson will be arguing in favour of traditional theism – the view that God and the world are not identical. Asha Lancaster-Thomas will be defending pantheism – the view that they are. What are the implications of identifying God with the universe? Can such a view still provide the kind of moral and metaphysical grounding traditionally associated with belief in a transcendent creator? Or – by dragging God down from the heaven’s – do we diminish the divine and its explanatory power?

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This episode is generously supported by The John Templeton Foundation, through The Panpsychism and Pan(en)theism Project (62683).


Links

Asha Lancaster-Thomas (PhilPapers, website)

Tim Mawson (Oxford University, website)

The Panpsychism and Pan(en)theism Project (website)

Episode 141, ‘Deadly Sins’ with Elizabeth Oldfield (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)

Welcome to Episode 141 (Part II of II), where we’ll be speaking to Elizabeth Oldfield about religion, community, and public philosophy.

Much of ethics is relational: it’s about how we treat other people, the world around us, and how those relationships shape who we become. In philosophy, this often gets formalised as a set of virtues to cultivate, duties to obey, or harms to avoid. But today, we rarely talk about sins – let alone the seven deadly sins.

Historically rooted in the Christian tradition – pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, and sloth – have been understood not just as personal failings. They were taken seriously because they obscured what it meant to flourish: that is, to be fully alive. They are, fundamentally, habits of being that corrode our ability to love. So, what might we learn today from the seven deadly sins? How can these ancient categories illuminate our lives, in a world marked by disconnection and distraction?

In this episode, we’ll be speaking about the seven sins with Elizabeth Oldfield. Elizabeth is a writer, speaker, host of The Sacred podcast, and the former director of Theos Think Tank. In her recent book Fully Alive, she revives the seven deadly sins – not as a tool for moral condemnation, but as a lens through which to examine our practices and principles.

We’ll be talking with Elizabeth about how sin, properly understood, can help us confront the crisis of meaning and the collapse of community. We’ll also explore her Christian vision of moral transformation and why it’s vital to believers and non-believers alike.

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Episode 141, ‘Deadly Sins’ with Elizabeth Oldfield (Part I - Fully Alive)

Welcome to Episode 141 (Part I of II), where we’ll be discussing ethics and religion with Elizabeth Oldfield.

Much of ethics is relational: it’s about how we treat other people, the world around us, and how those relationships shape who we become. In philosophy, this often gets formalised as a set of virtues to cultivate, duties to obey, or harms to avoid. But today, we rarely talk about sins – let alone the seven deadly sins.

Historically rooted in the Christian tradition – pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, and sloth – have been understood not just as personal failings. They were taken seriously because they obscured what it meant to flourish: that is, to be fully alive. They are, fundamentally, habits of being that corrode our ability to love. So, what might we learn today from the seven deadly sins? How can these ancient categories illuminate our lives, in a world marked by disconnection and distraction?

In this episode, we’ll be speaking about the seven sins with Elizabeth Oldfield. Elizabeth is a writer, speaker, host of The Sacred podcast, and the former director of Theos Think Tank. In her recent book Fully Alive, she revives the seven deadly sins – not as a tool for moral condemnation, but as a lens through which to examine our practices and principles.

We’ll be talking with Elizabeth about how sin, properly understood, can help us confront the crisis of meaning and the collapse of community. We’ll also explore her Christian vision of moral transformation and why it’s vital to believers and non-believers alike.

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Episode 137, Between God and Atheism: Live in London (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)

Welcome to ‘Episode 137 (Part II of II)’, where our live debate continues and is followed by a Q&A from the audience.

This is a live recording from our recent show at The Royal Institution Theatre in London.

The panel includes returning guests Philip Goff (professor of philosophy at Durham) and Rowan Williams (former Archbishop of Canterbury), as well as two new panellists, Elizabeth Oldfield (the popular writer) and Alex O’Connor (the popular YouTuber).

It’s a very warm and good-spirited debate exploring the problems with traditional religion and atheism. The main arguments discussed are the argument for God from design and the argument against God from evil. Veteran listeners will be familiar with these arguments; still, in each case, it’s fascinating to hear the responses from both sides of the aisle on what their opponents take to be the strongest objections to their view.

Without further ado, here’s the audio from our live show…we hope you enjoy the conversation.

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Episode 137, Between God and Atheism: Live in London (Part I - The Debate)

Welcome to ‘Episode 137 (Part I of II)’, where we’ll be discussing the problems of fine-tuning and evil.

This is a live recording from our recent show at The Royal Institution Theatre in London.

The panel includes returning guests Philip Goff (professor of philosophy at Durham) and Rowan Williams (former Archbishop of Canterbury), as well as two new panellists, Elizabeth Oldfield (the popular writer) and Alex O’Connor (the popular YouTuber).

It’s a very warm and good-spirited debate exploring the problems with traditional religion and atheism. The main arguments discussed are the argument for God from design and the argument against God from evil. Veteran listeners will be familiar with these arguments; still, in each case, it’s fascinating to hear the responses from both sides of the aisle on what their opponents take to be the strongest objections to their view.

Without further ado, here’s the audio from our live show…we hope you enjoy the conversation.

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Episode 136, ‘A World Unmade’ with Peter Hitchens (Part II - A Revolution Betrayed)

Welcome to ‘Episode 136 (Part II of II)’, where we’ll be discussing the philosophy of education and grammar schools.

The Western world faces a tidal wave of secularisation, which shows no signs of receding. In the UK, Christian self-identification has plummeted – dropping, for example, from 72% in 2001 to 47% in 2021. The secularists argue that this trend reflects a shift towards an inclusive and intellectually progressive society; their critics, however, warn that the decline of faith erodes our moral foundations and frays our social ties. “The secular flood isn’t just about church attendance,” they say, “but strikes at the heart of our nation’s identity and stability.”

For many conservatives, nowhere is this betrayal of our values more evident than our education system. In the UK, the 1944 Education Act introduced free secondary education to all children for the first time – with grammar schools said to offer exceptional educations to our most talented students. Today, grammar schools are in decline, and the founding of new ones prohibited. It was argued that these schools favoured the middle classes and perpetuated social divisions; others, however, believe that closing these pathways has reduced educational and social opportunities. Like the Christian identity of the nation, grammar schools are at risk of being confined to history books.

In this episode, we’ll be speaking with Peter Hitchens – British journalist, author, and social critic – about what religious and educational changes mean for the soul of Britain. Together, we’ll explore whether this shift marks the dawn of a more inclusive era – or the washing away of a once Great Britain.

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Episode 136, ‘A World Unmade’ with Peter Hitchens (Part I - The Rage Against God)

Welcome to ‘Episode 136 (Part I of II)’, where we’ll be discussing the rise of secular society with Peter Hitchens.

The Western world faces a tidal wave of secularisation, which shows no signs of receding. In the UK, Christian self-identification has plummeted – dropping, for example, from 72% in 2001 to 47% in 2021. The secularists argue that this trend reflects a shift towards an inclusive and intellectually progressive society; their critics, however, warn that the decline of faith erodes our moral foundations and frays our social ties. “The secular flood isn’t just about church attendance,” they say, “but strikes at the heart of our nation’s identity and stability.”

For many conservatives, nowhere is this betrayal of our values more evident than our education system. In the UK, the 1944 Education Act introduced free secondary education to all children for the first time – with grammar schools said to offer exceptional educations to our most talented students. Today, grammar schools are in decline, and the founding of new ones prohibited. It was argued that these schools favoured the middle classes and perpetuated social divisions; others, however, believe that closing these pathways has reduced educational and social opportunities. Like the Christian identity of the nation, grammar schools are at risk of being confined to history books.

In this episode, we’ll be speaking with Peter Hitchens – British journalist, author, and social critic – about what religious and educational changes mean for the soul of Britain. Together, we’ll explore whether this shift marks the dawn of a more inclusive era – or the washing away of a once Great Britain.

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